ATTRACTION ~ Deck the halls with
balls of…
What’s sexy? What’s not?
Do lingerie, food, smells, genitalia
or ‘enhancements’
sex us up?
Aloha
everyone! Thanks to all you readers on our blogs. I hope everyone had a Chirpy Christmas /Hanukah/Kwanzaa/Solstice and any other holiday thing you might have
had.
Today on Conversations with Spencer, we’re talking about attraction. What is that thing
that instantly grabs our attention in a person? Is it their crotch, lips, hair,
abs, breasts, smile, personality, attributes, bank account…? Do things like
sexy lingerie turn us on? Do bee stung, Botox lips do anything for us? What do
men think of breast enhancements? And is any kind of food really an
aphrodisiac? What smells arouse you?
What makes a
person sexy?
MEG:
I’ve been
pondering this question after having a late night discussion with one of my
toyboys. He likes my ass and breasts. He thinks my bum is ample and lovely to
grab—apparently. I like my backside, I’ve always liked its roundness and that
it’s not small. Yes, I know…I’m weird. I’ll never say, “Does my bum look too
big?” My boobs aren’t anything to write home about, but apparently they do the
job. My late husband was a breast man. My ex-boyfriend Kahiko was a leg man.
Is this the
primary attraction ‘code’ for men?
I once asked
this dopey guy why he married his wife. He said, “Because she was pretty.” I
thought, you’re an idiot.
I was at a
dance club once with my friend Lu and she had a sexy smoochie dance with a guy
who rushed off the dance floor. We later wondered if he’d gone to relieve
himself… But anyway, she thought she spotted him the next day as we were
walking the streets of Maui. But she wasn’t sure. Why? She couldn’t remember
his face, only his body?
I was a wee
bit nonplussed by this. I’d never struck that in a woman before. So, is this
cultural? Or gender differences. Sometimes I couldn’t tell you what someone’s
body looked like, but I’ll remember their face. I might get that they were
tall, the color of their hair.
I’m
attracted firstly to someone’s eyes. If the eyes don’t do it for me, nothing
else will. Then I like hair. The ‘number one’ stubble thing turns me off. I
love a warm, twinkly smile, an open friendly, intelligent, funny personality as
well. Someone can be gorgeous, but if their personality is a dud, it’s a no go.
I’ve often
attracted to people for personality and intelligence, alone.
Gentleness of
spirit, fun, quirky traits, a caring attitude, a sharp brain…
So Spencer,
what first grabs you about someone?
And what
second grabs you about someone?
SPENCER:
I am a
guy and like most guys I tend toward the visual. I have noticed a change in
what draws me now. As a young man it was the full body scan. I've always liked
the curvy gals.
Now I am at the age where I see an attractive woman then have
to slap myself with the realization that she may be thirty years younger than
me and still be a 'mature' woman. Unless you’re Morgan Freeman or Sean Connery,
women stop 'seeing' you. It's rare now for a woman to visually engage me. I'm
rarely in public places like bars where I used to go to find women or at least
engage in some fantasy. It's just chance encounters in the main stream of life.
Now it's
eyes and face. I look for the magic, the zest for life that might appear for
only a moment that I find attractive. Often it's a woman's tender gaze on her
child rather than the distant detached look of a fashion model.
Second of
course is the figure. I'm a tummy guy (Meg: this is cool, I didn’t know men could
be tummy guys. J ) but
here in the frozen tundra we don't see much of that six months out of the year.
In fact at this time of year we are so bundled it's hard to make out shape. The
fish hooks and piercings anywhere but ears are a major turn off. I guess that's
generational. "Bee stung lips", LOL, they are ugly, ugly, ugly.
Was Mick Jagger our original prototype for the bee stung lip trend. :-) |
MEG:
Okay, I
suspect I’m slightly odd in the world of women and also culturally Kiwis aren’t
brought up with ‘the body beautiful.’ So I don’t go for muscles on a man. I’m
looking for sexiness and sensuality, but eyes, smile, hair, nice face will do
that for me. I agree we have to have an initial attraction to someone, but what
keeps us there?
What do I
notice physically? Though this in no way makes me go out with someone. It’s
just a nice thing to have. I like long hands and fingers. I like nice feet. I
love a nice bum on a man, broad shoulders and men’s backs. Little body hair, no
facial hair—except on my man Morgan Freeman. He and Tom Sellack are the
exceptions. But give me hair with waves or curls, long or/and thick. Hmmm hmmm.
Earrings—love earrings. Can take or leave ink. That’s
my list. Notice – penis and balls aren’t there. I love them, but they’re not an
attraction thing for me.
The very beautiful Dayvid Thomas who is my muse for my new character Kulani Mahikoa in HAWAIIAN ORCHID, part of The Hawaiian series. Gay romance, coming out next year :-) |
Turn offs:
Number one haircuts. Ugh. No pubes. Ugh. Horrible shoes. Yes, I know, strange
and weird prejudice, but I’ve spoken to other women and this is not as uncommon
as you’d think. Head beanies! Baggy jeans. Baggy underwear. Those nasty
American ‘shorts’ and boxers like shorts. Also New Zealand Y-front underwear
and singlets. Ugh. Mismatched socks and men who leave them on having sex??! NO!
Personally,
once we get down to it, I love men in form fitting underwear, with a nice
outline of their penis and balls. Very sexy. So speaking of underwear Spencer?
Do men generally like lingerie? I love wearing gorgeous lingerie. Corsets,
stockings, lacey panties, sexy bras, baby dolls, plunging necklines, all do it
for me. Do men really like this stuff? Or it is just extra clothing that
hampers the main objective?
I know someone
whose partner just liked them in plain cotton thongs and bra. He thought that
was sexy. I've never gone out with a man that wears lacy panties. I'm trying to decide if I'd like that or not. I think I might, but I suspect he might not like women... oh well. :-)
SPENCER:
Interesting
how your tastes reflect that you are from a warm sunny climate. (Meg: He has to be talking about my American
home state of Hawai’i. LOL. NZ is bloody cold, like Washington State, but not
like the frozen north! I did two long…….winters in Michigan. Ugh.) Don't come here, you'll die of visual
starvation. I'm sure you're not a big fan of American football but look at the
difference in the dress of the fans and cheerleaders between sunbelt and frost
belt.
I love
the fancy lingerie. It's too bad they hang it on such young skinny girls at
Victoria's Secret. Back in the 80's I loved the combination of the woman's
power suit-the tight fitting skirt and matching jacket over the lacy blouse
with the hints of the fancy lingerie underneath. Business on the outside, fun
underneath. Meg Ryan and her big hair. Oh my.
MEG:
Now I want
to know where people are at with the ‘enhancement’ stuff. Or as Aaron and I
used to call it – when someone’s had ‘dental work.’ In New Zealand, plastic
surgery is still not an everyday thing. I know when I first came here to the
States I couldn’t get over the bill boards advertising breast enhancements. It
was so weird!!
I had a
friend who had her chin and nose reshaped and breasts enlarged. I honestly
couldn’t tell with her nose and chin. But her breasts were odd. She had a nice
bust size, a respectable 34C and she went to a 36D or something. She looked
peculiar. I always worried she’d topple over. She looked top-heavy for her
frame.
Too much? |
Now Spencer
jump in here, because you have opinions on breast size and it might surprise
the women out there.
The classic
LA Story, when Steve Martin is feeling Sarah Jessica Parkers breasts and he
says, “SanDeE, your breasts feel weird.”
She says
perkily, “Oh, that’s cos they’re real.”
What do men
think of breast enhancement?
Or any
‘enhancement?’
I think
plastic surgery is self-mutilation…
I also don’t
like intersex children having their sexual identity imposed on them at a young
age through surgery. This is a brilliant blogsite on intersex. Increase awareness please.
http://www.intersexroadshow.blogspot.com/
The one on intersex-genitalia-illustrated is very interesting.
http://www.intersexroadshow.blogspot.com/
The one on intersex-genitalia-illustrated is very interesting.
And I think
male circumcision is also mutilation…
I can’t
fathom the Botox thing. I ran across a woman in Florida once who seemed to have
had every ‘enhancement’ known to man/womankind. She looked like a caricature of
herself. Like the overblown Jessica whatsie in Roger Rabbit. I didn’t think it
was remotely sexy, but what do men think?
Spencer, I
happen to know you love curvy women as most men do, but I’m assuming you want
the natural curves and soft pillows on a woman.
SPENCER:
Men love
breasts of all sizes, the only ones we don't like are the ones that aren't
shared willingly. Small breasts can be very sexy-back to Meg Ryan in 80's. Or
my other Hollywood fantasy woman, Sigourney Weaver-also small breasted-and
tall. However I could look at Eva Mendez all day, especially if she was just in
some lingerie.
I have
never felt enhanced breasts. I find them a little scary to look at. I think,
what kind of woman is so insecure about her figure that she'll inject sand from
some beach and risk all kinds of heath problems-for what? I don't think I could
get comfortable with that kind of woman-she's too uncomfortable with herself.
Before and after piccies - improvement or not? |
MEG:
And this is
my issue with it too. That people feel so bad about themselves, that they feel
they must have plastic surgery to look good?! I find that frightening. What
frightens me too is when young girls get a boob job at say 18. Are you serious?
And the casual way it seems to be handled. Oh, are you going to get pink or red
cherry nail polish today? It’s seen often as a normal sort of thing. We’re
bringing people up, especially women, to hate themselves unless they really do
look like the plastic Barbie version. Not good.
SPENCER:
The Botox
thing is terrible. It looks so unnatural. Joan Rivers. I don't think she could
even blink at the time of her death.
Too much 'dental work'? |
MEG:
Given it’s
that time of the year and a recent discussion elsewhere. Is slathering
ourselves with chocolate sauce sexy? Would some whipped cream and a cherry in a
strategic place add to things, or would you die laughing? Have you ever found
oysters or anything to add to sexual libido? I personally never have. Alcohol
might loosen up my inhibitions a wee bit, but that’s probably the extent of it.
Once in Sex
in the City, Samantha, lies on the dining room table naked, decorated with
Sushi for her man’s homecoming dinner.
Do flavored
condoms, edible underwear or anything else do it for you?
I like that
tantric Kama Sutra powder and I LOVE good men’s perfumes. Smells arouse me. I
love Bulgari Extreme. A lot of Bulgari products actually. Yummmmm. That’s
arousing. I always wear Jessica McClintock original. Delicious. Can’t say balls
dipped in choccie would do it for me. But to a tactile person, they might…
SPENCER:
The
erotic thing to me about gourmet sex is the surrender involved. The woman is
saying, 'here I am, giving myself completely to you'-it's like human sacrifice
of a sort-literally consuming her body.
Was this what you meant? :-) NO! :-) |
Better? :-) |
I've
never done it though. As I have said before, children kill intimacy. Sex after
children is stolen moments, in the dark, under the covers, quietly. There isn't
the time and space to make sex the celebration it should be. We never had the
money to have get-away weekends.
Funny how
that has been a struggle in my writing-not rushing sex scenes, learning to stay
in the moment and linger over the details and the building desire-stuff you do
so well. (Meg:
Thanks Spencer. And that’s an interesting observation on how we write as
individuals. Another male romance erotica writer I know also said, he tends to
want to rush to the actual sex act parts of a story. It’s possibly the way
we’re structured as male and female, but also interesting in that I don’t have
human children and haven’t had to ever ‘make it quick.’)
I'm from
the 60's. I still like the aroma of patchouli oil. It reminds me of the
mythical hippie chick that poured out free love with Cream playing in the
background. It's a memory that never came close to reality.
I've
never used condoms. My sexually active years were in the 80's before AIDS. The
women were all on the pill then. Someone should tell modern erotic writers that
condoms are a highly unreliable means of birth control. (Meg: Me either Spencer on the
condoms, but with my younger lovers, I’ve had to and it was a learning
experience that I’m still not as comfortable with because I didn’t grow up with
it.
I think my generation was the last of the really ‘free’ generation. We
drunk drove (Yes, horrendous now when you think about it,) did drugs freely
(also not sure that’s a great thing) and had free uninhibited condom free and
lots of it sex (Now, here I do think it was a good thing. In some ways we had
less inhibitions and in others, we knew a lot less about sex than the younger
sets do. But we were less moralistic too I think, especially in New Zealand. All
the outrageous clothes and bands… We LIVED. My best friend Gail and I talk
about some of the things we did and think, Crikey dick!!! But we had a LOT of
fun!!! LOL. We’re the original Ab Fabbers. We always argued about who was going
to be Pats, I haven’t eaten since 1972, darling…)
Ab Fab Darlings |
New Zealand eighties band - SPLIT ENZ |
So in conclusion, we're sexy in lots of different ways. Don't assume everyone likes the same thing or that something you have is a turn off. It's probably not. I once researched about the amount of people who find underarm pit hair sexy and love the smell. See—something for everyone! :-)
Although in one survey, the number one passion killer for men is huge GRANNY panties, so you might want to reconsider those. And the number one passion killer for women is men who have undressed but still have their socks on. Then awkwardly take them off... See... I'm not the only one would hates socks and sex!! LOL.
And a final snippet on why gay men often wear socks or shoes in porn and piccies. I asked the photographer Dan Skinner, also a great author and he said it's so dirty feet don't show in the shot. Aha! I guess if you are naked and moving around a lot, you might get grubby feet. I hadn't thought of that. LOL.
Thanks again for coming to visit us and reading our ramblings.
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